Beiträge von demian im Thema „Der beobachter von Anatta“

    Zitat

    Dann könnte also das Bewusstsein unabhängig von einem Objekt existieren, ... ?


    An mehreren Stellen in den Sutta spricht der Buddha genau davon, als "consciousness without support" oder "consciousness that does not land"


    Nibanna Sutta


    There is that dimension where there is neither earth, nor water, nor fire, nor wind; neither dimension of the infinitude of space, nor dimension of the infinitude of consciousness, nor dimension of nothingness, nor dimension of neither perception nor non-perception; neither this world, nor the next world, nor sun, nor moon. And there, I say, there is neither coming, nor going, nor staying; neither passing away nor arising: unestablished, unevolving, without support (mental object). This, just this, is the end of stress.


    Atthi Raga Sutta


    "Just as if there were a roofed house or a roofed hall having windows on the north, the south, or the east. When the sun rises, and a ray has entered by way of the window, where does it land?"
    "On the western wall, lord."
    "And if there is no western wall, where does it land?"
    "On the ground, lord."
    "And if there is no ground, where does it land?"
    "On the water, lord."
    "And if there is no water, where does it land?"
    "It does not land, lord."


    "In the same way, where there is no passion for the nutriment of physical food... contact... intellectual intention... consciousness, where there is no delight, no craving, then consciousness does not land there or increase. Where consciousness does not land or increase, there is no alighting of name-&-form. Where there is no alighting of name-&-form, there is no growth of fabrications. Where there is no growth of fabrications, there is no production of renewed becoming in the future. Where there is no production of renewed becoming in the future, there is no future birth, aging, & death. That, I tell you, has no sorrow, affliction, or despair."


    Cetana Sutta


    "But when one doesn't intend, arrange, or obsess [about anything], there is no support for the stationing of consciousness. There being no support, there is no landing of consciousness. When that consciousness doesn't land & grow, there is no production of renewed becoming in the future. When there is no production of renewed becoming in the future, there is no future birth, aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, or despair. Such is the cessation of this entire mass of suffering & stress."


    Bija Sutta


    "If a monk abandons passion for the property of consciousness, then owing to the abandonment of passion, the support is cut off, and there is no landing of consciousness. Consciousness, thus not having landed, not increasing, not concocting, is released. Owing to its release, it is steady. Owing to its steadiness, it is contented. Owing to its contentment, it is not agitated. Not agitated, he (the monk) is totally unbound right within. He discerns that 'Birth is ended, the holy life fulfilled, the task done. There is nothing further for this world.'"

    Zitat

    Wer ist der Beobachter, der die "nicht Existenz" vom "Ich", von "sich selbst" beobachtet und erkennt?
    Was bleibt dann "übrig"? reine Beobachtung ohne Beobachter? - Wahrscheinlich...


    Wahrnehmung ohne Identifikation, da der dafür zuständige Geistesfaktor inaktiv bzw. in dem Fall durch Achtsamkeit unterdrückt ist. Man hat über der Tag auch so unzählige dieser Momente, bekommt das aber nicht unbedingt mit. Identifikation findet ja nicht immer statt.